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Grateful Dead Live at Wembley Empire Pool on 1972-04-08

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Grateful Dead Live at Wembley Empire Pool on 1972-04-08

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This show has been commercially released as " Europe '72: The Complete Recordings - All The Music Edition"

Bertha, Me & My Uncle, Mr. Charlie, Deal, Black Throated Wind, Next Time You See Me, Cumberland Blues, Brown Eyed Women, Beat It On Down The Line, Tennessee Jed, Playin' In The Band, Good Lovin', Looks Like Rain, Casey Jones Truckin', Big Railroad Blues, It Hurts Me Too, Dark Star-> Mind Left Body Jam -> Sugar Magnolia-> Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks); E: One More Saturday Night

Collection GratefulDead
Band/Artist Grateful Dead
Venue Wembley Empire Pool
Location London, England

Source SBD> MR (16 track)> DAT> [Disc 3 only: SS]> Sound Forge 4.5>CDR


SBD> MR (16 track)> DAT> [Disc 3 only: SS]> Sound Forge 4.5>CDR; remastering by Bill Giles, with disc 3 work by David Gans; EAC> SHN by Jeff M.; see detailed notes in info file


Reviewer: SethWax - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 19, 2017
Subject: Pigpen jams
We all know this is one of the best ever. It leaves '77 in the dust. I had the semi-official bootleg that came out years ago with the Dark Star. I don't come back to this show that often, but it certainly is epic. Listening to the Star, I started to hear organ around the 19 minute mark. Keith was clearly on piano and the stereo mix has Keith and Pigpen in opposite channels. Yes Pig joining the jam, at the peak of it. Outside of the earliest '68 versions where Pig plays the repeating line in Dark Star, I have never really heard Pigpen playing in the thick of a jam. Kochman's review above recognized it also. Not a wasted minute of this Dark Star and some sheer beauty in all of it's psychedelic splendor!
Reviewer: Wrqng - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 4, 2017
Subject: Great show
Great show from my favourite tour but holy shit Jerry at the end of Dark Star won't let up as the rest of the band are heading into what coulda been an explosive Chinacat(/Rider?).
Reviewer: atheistdeadhead - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 28, 2015
Subject: what an amazing recording
band is hot. the sound on this recording is really solid. thx
Reviewer: chris phillips - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - June 13, 2014
Subject: hot wired
Outside of the DS, LLR is a beauty and the One More Saturday rips like no other.
Reviewer: doug_the_dude - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 9, 2014
Subject: --
Yeah, take your pick as to whichever of the two nights @ Empire Pool is better - this one's a keeper through and through. Pigpen gets a chance to shine quite a lot throughout the show; Good Lovin', Playin', Dark Star, Caution - the greatness of this thing just goes on and on.
Reviewer: Steverino1031 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 11, 2014
Subject: Shall we go?
I'm up late. Listening to the Dark Star on headphones. I really need to get to sleep, but I doubt this version will let that happen. I was just thinking that a lady friend and I took some L and then decided to listen to this and have sex together. Anyway, no need for me to go into any real details about the show, you all have covered it. Get the E 72 shows if you don't have them. I was lucky enough to get the trunk. I listened to every show in order and it was nice because I'm usually a jam/second set guy, and I realized how much I had missed the first set songs. The boys were on fire throughout the tour, and they really honed their skills. 72-74 are my favorite years, wish I could have been there.

Peace & Love,
St. Stephen
Reviewer: kochman - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - January 29, 2014
Subject: Another Great Night in the Swimming Pool
Bertha… The boys, like the previous night, are fired up from the first notes. Jerry is in great vox to boot.
MAMU keeps things moving nicely.
Mr. Charlie is nice and funky, one of few Pigpen songs that can keep up with what the Dead have started morphing into by 1972.
Deal, while it hasn’t become the song it will be, up till 1972, this is one of the better versions.
BTW, well played, and not over sung.
Next Time You See Me
Cumberland Blues rips, so hot they broke another string.
BEW, great version here.
TN Jed has a nice payoff but pretty standard for this time. Energy maintained thus far through the set.
PITB is driven and seers its way into your brain starting shortly into the jam segment. This short one covers all the bases while maintaining energy throughout. A+.
Good Lovin’ is a nice effort, omitting a long Pigpen rant that could get aimless, this ten minute version keeps things moving along nicely. Great Jer/Bob/Phil blast around 3 minutes in.
LLR has Jerry is loud form, nicely out in front of the rest. He’s got a great tone. If you like this song, you’ll likely love this one.
Casey Jones

Truckin’ is a great way to open the 2nd, and they fully rock it out.
Big RR is short and rollicking. Great screeching guitar by Garcia.
Hurts Me Too would epitomize why Pigpen wasn’t going to keep up with the direction he band was going. Yes, they held onto the blues, but he was a front man, and sinking to the rear with just a few songs, as the group slid more into Jerry’s world… and Jerry runs the show on this one.
Dark Star>Sugar Magnolia>Caution
This long meat sequence of 3 songs allows all three of the primary singers to have a shot. Dark Star, I can’t say enough about this, one of the most driven, intense Dark Stars out there, it will always be in my tops! Billy drives the intensity and much as Jerry, and it doesn’t let go. Around 11 minutes in they slow it down enough to go into the verse. I love when they actually need to slow down a jam to go into the verse (of any song), it means you likely had your brain scattered. After the verse Billy gets on the cymbals slowing the pace, and they get spacey. The coming blast off starts just before the 18 minute mark, and again features Octopus Billy. Around 21 minutes things start getting creepy with a very interesting, almost circus like Pigpen buried in the background. The jam is all over the place, maintaining a nice pace and staying fully exploratory. 28 minutes in they head into what strongly hints at the song they will eventually go into, 7 minutes later, Sugar Magnolia. Bobby, not ready to go there yet, starts the chord progression of the MLB Jam (though they hadn’t “played it yet”). Sugar Magnolia officially hits when Bob changes his chords to those familiar chords. This is an energetic version, featuring a Bobby chuckle as he sings the lyrics. I wonder what made him laugh? Caution comes naturally right out of this with Phil and Billy pushing it out of the crashdown of SSDD. Billy has been on fire all night, meaning a great 20 minutes to close out the set! It stays pretty driven until about the 13th minute where it goes a little bluesier in content. The outro is tremendous! Great Caution. A+ meat sequence (if short).

One More Saturday Night

Performance Summary
Back to back homeruns (7th and 8th) in London! This show doesn’t really have many downs, and the highs are extremely good. The Dark Star, especially the last 7 minutes, amazing. Essential show.

Sound Quality
A+ for official release
Reviewer: Darrylizer - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 19, 2013
Subject: Fantastic show
The second Europe '72 show and it is killer. I'm with gphismon on this Dark Star. It's intense and exploritory and my favorite one they ever did including 02/13/70 at the Fillmore East. And the Caution as mentioned is one of the best, the best from this tour in any case. Combine those gems with the excellent readings of Mr. Charlie, LLR (with Jerry on pedal steel), Playin' In The Band etc., wow. Btw this is the tour where Bob Weir's rhythm guitar becomes god-like.

Btw the Europe '72 box set of just the music is worth having despite its high price. The shows are available individually too. The best (so far) in my opinion are: 04/08, 04/11 (Newcsastle), 04/26 (Jahrhundert Halle), 05/03 (Paris), and 05/26 Lyceum, London). Tivloi 04/14 is great too. I've been waiting for the complete tour release for years.
Reviewer: jjk8995 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 9, 2012
Subject: Favorite 60 minutes of music
It's good to see that I do not stand alone in the opinion of this show. In fact, the Dark Star>Sugar Magnolia>Caution, One More Saturday Night is my favorite 60 minutes of music by any band, anywhere and anytime. And yes, it certainly is nice to be able to pick the shows you need to complete a solid sounding collection of the, for me, pinnacle of Grateful Dead music.
Reviewer: gphishmon - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 10, 2010
Subject: Single Best Dark Star Ever Bar None
Maybe the best show ever just based on the Dark Star. Gotta warn you if you haven't heard it - it's not for those with serious heart conditions. The boys make it clear early on that they mean business. This isn't one of those mellow, slow developing Stars of 73. No, they go for the jugular with intense play from everyone even before the verse, but what comes after builds with a fury. There's not really a Tiger here, but the whole band's wailing so hard it doesn't matter. Crank this up and watch the music scale the stairway to heaven, then turn around and rip apart the fabric of space/time before your stunned, terrified ears. But just as you're screaming, "No, please, no more universes (destroyed)!" they turn on a dime and settle into a mellow theme that forms a smooth segue into Sugar Mag. It's not really a mind left body jam, although it has elements of that. In case you weren't clear on what they were throwin' down, they then deliver a Caution worthy of that warning.

The rating is for the show, not the recording since that's been pulled. I'm listening to my cassette recorded off the GD Hour.
Reviewer: clementinescaboose - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 11, 2009
Subject: Best Caution EVER
the dark star>sugarmag>caution (and i believe other parts of this show) are featured on stepping out...

the dark star is one of my very favorites with some wonderfully fluid jamming and great peaks.

but the highlight is the most raging version of caution i've ever heard; jerry's speed fueled mayhem of guitar playing is just beyond words in this one. listen to this cruising down the highway, and you're sure to get a speeding ticket.
Reviewer: snow_and_rain - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 2, 2009
Subject: PITB is the overlooked jewel of this show!
Awesome Playin! Compact and brilliant
Reviewer: cb18201 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 4, 2009
Subject: anyone help out a head?
got "steppin out" but i wanna hear this whole show really bad. anyone out there get this version or any of the other versions on here before they were taken down? if your willing to trade please email me at

Reviewer: Harry Netzer - - January 28, 2009
Subject: Where can I get this?
Cumberland Blues wasn't released on Steppin' Out with the Grateful Dead! Where can I listen to this recording now?
Reviewer: mgford25 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 16, 2008
Subject: Perfection
One of those shows that is high energy perfection from the first note. Insane intensity. Unbelievable jamming. I was already floored, when I realized I was still listening to the first set! And then later, Dark Star, and a rare one-drummer Caution? Waaaayy over the top! The first Caution in Europe, absolutely blistering. Take three hours and listen to this whole show, from start to finish.
Reviewer: phleshy - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - January 12, 2005
Subject: Awesome Europe '72 show.
What makes this show, of course, is the Dark Star>Sugar Mag>Caution. The first set, though full of great songs, is rather average for E72. I like the Cumberland from the actual album; boy, did they polish up their harmonies in the studio!

The Dark Star, like many others from this tour, is very adventurous and beautiful; it has far less of the dissonant Tiger jam than 4/24 or 5/11 so it's very accessible. The Mind Left Body jam at the end is pure bliss. The Sugar Mag and Caution smoke, with Pig in the latter as good as ever. It's hard to believe that he would be dead less than a year later.

By all means necessary, get this show. Any fans of the '72 Dead are missing out if they don't have it.
Reviewer: bootleg43 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 16, 2004
Subject: Rarely Does It Get Better
The Playin In The Band from this show is simply RAGING! This one is a Jerry/Phil smorgasbourg. The fellas never stop creating throughout the life of this Playin. The Good Lovin rocks also. This is another of those 72 versions which differs from the typical 1970 and 1971 versions in that there are no drums after the initial singing of verses. Pig is at the top of his game on this version. Jerry continues to snake through the woodpile, never concluding the seemingly endless string of notes which constitute every jam they ever did. This is some serious music here, kids! Strap into those seat belts and assume the position... The Dark Star>Sugar Mag>Caution is everything everyone has already said. I used this particular jam to further entice a semi-DeadHead friend further onto the bus. Needless to say, after about 15 minutes of this Dark Star, he was totally feeling it. I say this alot, but I only say it when I mean it: your life is not complete without owning and knowing this show. There is no one who cannot like this stuff unless they are musically impaired or near death. Try it and see.
Reviewer: darkstarpat - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 16, 2004
Subject: Great Start
Really sets the tone for whats to come on this tour. The Dark Star is absolutely amazing. At about the 25 minute, it just takes off into the most stunningly beautiful jam I've ever heard.
Reviewer: grateful red - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 15, 2004
Subject: Essential
the dark star > sugar mag > caution from this show is one of the most astounding pieces of music i've ever heard. whenever i need to explain the dead to people, i point them to that, and they seem to get it.
Reviewer: Dylanstubs - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 15, 2004
Subject: Sounds great
But unless Cumberland was missing completely, there was no reason to use the Europe '72 version. I would have preferred to hear it sans overdubbing.
Reviewer: KidKoala - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 27, 2004
Subject: A+ Sound quality ; A+ Show quality
The instruments are crisp, the vocals are crystal clear, the playing is gorgeously inspired. Get this show!
Reviewer: injunva - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 26, 2004
Subject: comparable to '72!
Excellent show, as good as Europe '72. Best live Cumberland I've heard yet!
Reviewer: dr. flashback - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 10, 2004
Subject: Top Ten!
One of the 3-4 greatest shows of the tour, no doubt. I prefer 4/14 a little better, but this show is a knockout. The Dark Star is very intense and psychedelic. But the Caution almost upstages it, very hot! The band was tight, well rehearsed,and on a mission from God tonight. All the songs are well played, Truckin and Playin especially. And the LL Rain with Jerry on pedal steel is really a rare treat. Jerry plays steel also on 4/14 - and I believe one other Euro 72 show. Anyone know? I've heard so much good Euro lately my mind is spinning! Get 5/11, 4/14, 5/26 and this one and you'll have some of the best from this tour. Enjoy bozos!
Dr. Flashback ;-)
Reviewer: Chadbang - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - June 19, 2004
Subject: Classic Dead
I've downloaded about 25 shows from and the Wembley concert is my favourite so far. Musicially the show reminds of the tracks you'll find on the classic Dead album "Europe '72". The band is in fantastic form and locked into infectious groove all the way through the show. Sonically, the Wembley concert also reminds me on the sound found on "Europe '72". It has an excellent mix and balance, outshining numerous other live shows found here at You can easily imagine that this recording was given the same treatment as the tracks that wound up on Europe 72. They seem to share the same sonic footprint. Of all the taped shows I've downloaded, I find this the most pleasant to listen to from an audiophile standpoint, really an excellent taping job and hghly recommended. And, as I've said, the band in also in peak form with this brisk sounding, tightly focused performance. By far, my favourite show to date. But, luckily, there's much more to shift through! Five stars, indeed! :)
Reviewer: raintheory - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - June 7, 2004
Subject: very nice
love the dark star here... very intense, listened to it for the first time driving home, by the time the 19min mark came around I realized I was speeding and had a death-grip on the steering wheel. :)
Reviewer: Susep - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - June 1, 2004
Subject: "kind of husky..."
This night saw the Dead liftoff towards an incredible musical odyssey. Cumberland (smokin' version which later appeaers on what album?) and Playin' showcases sea saw melodicism by Jerry with the others opening up bigtime. Set II offers more splendid improvisation, Enjoy.
Reviewer: RJGerard - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 27, 2004
Subject: Great Show!!!
This is a must have. The Dead were "plugged in" on this night. There is great energy and clarity. The version of Looks Like Rain is one of the best I ever heard. Tender and strong. Next Time You See Me kicks. Sugar Mags rocks, as does Good Lovin'. They're the songs you've heard 100 times, but they never seem to get old. Do yourself a favor, download this show. It's worth it.
Reviewer: Hagen Hagen - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 5, 2004
Subject: frenzy
More focused than most later dates of that tour.
Looks Like Rain with Garcia on pedal steel is poignant / Dark Star is anything but dark - emitting white light for 30 minutes continously / a miraculous, all-smiles transition into a most frantic Sugar Magnolia spilling into Caution.
Disc 3 is the most energetic and intensive 60 minutes of The Dead that I know. And the rest of the show rocks hardly less.
Reviewer: dcain - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 1, 2004
Subject: Dark Star into Sugar Magnolia
Don't pass thru life without hearing this. In the jam coming out of Dark Star, it's unclear where they are headed; it's just some unknown, improvised, rollicking happy stuff. US Blues? Goin Down The Road? Turned out to be Sugar Magnolia. Incredible. And what a wiggy Dark Star this was.
Reviewer: gankmore - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 15, 2004
Subject: 31:31 Darkstar
This show is amazing in so many ways. Don't be turned off by the slight buzzing in the keys at the start of Bertha. By the time you get 2 minutes in this sounds great. The 31 and a half minute DarkStar leading into mind left body is what most folks will love about this show, but also the Mister Charlie, Big Railroad, and Casey Jones are all a stomping good time.

Get this one.
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